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our healthcare workers. >> we miss them so much and love them so much, district 11 in the bronx, thank you for having me >> appreciate your work. thank you for joining me, have a great weekend. anderson cooper picks up our coverage right now. take care. i am anderson cooper. the deadliest day since the start of the coronavirus pandemic. the country is not ready to reopen yet despite the pressure from the trump administration. the president unveiling his road map from trying to reopen the economy. that plan does not include what the do of widespread testing. we are told tonight the white house is revealing more details on plans for more testing. meantime after the president told the governor told governors to call the shot in their own states and telling andrew cuomo to stop
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complaining. the governor just fired back. >> we try to coordinate with our neighboring states and western states are coordinating. all he's doing is walk in front of the parade but he had nothing to do with the timing of the parade. governors are going to open when they think they should open. there are two things they need help from. they need help from the federal government. two things. help on testing because states can't do that and i don't want to redo the mayhem of the ppe debacle. we need them funded to do it. the way you are talking about funding on everything and businesses getting bailed zoout and airlines are getting bailed out and all taxpayers money.
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state governments which are the only one doing the reopening. they're going to need funding, right? show gratitude. how many times do you want me to say thank you? i am thanking to you to do your job. this is your job as president. we are seeing optimism of another medication that may help treat coronavirus symptom. this is not the one that the president is tauting. this is called remdesivir. why is this drug getting the attention today? >> i will be honest with you, it
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wish that it were not. what happens was there was a conference call video taped and lead to staff which was a health news website. the doctors were speaking enthusiastically about how great patients were doing on these drugs. these doctors are apart of a clinical trial that's being paid for by gilead which makes the drugs. i have seen patients doing great on remdesivir, it is human nature to think oh i give them a drug, it must be doing well. that's why we need carefully controlled clinical trials that are published and not leaked out to the media for all the drugs that's being studied as well. >> it seems to be president trump's favorite drug. >> i think it could be something incredible. >> it is hydroxychloroquine. it suggests it may not work and
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could cause heart problems. >> i can promise the american people that fda will use science and data to drive our decisions always. >> there are other drugs being studied to see if they may work against the novel coronavirus. on thursday, nearly 40 new clinical trials to study potential treatments for covid-19 were registered here on this government list of clinical trials. a similar drug from manufactu manufacturing called kevzara is also being studied for covid-19
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from genera. it was literally just talk and not public research. nol one knows for sure whether remdesivir which was designed but did not work for ebola will work for covid-19. for those recovering from coronavirus, their antibodies could help other people. they announced they teamed up with an italian manufacture to make a vaccine. all with an eye to put an end to the pandemic. now to go back to the drug we were talking about before that's making all the headline today. is it possible that's going to be a great treatment for covid?
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absolutely. is it possible that's useless? absolutely. we were both around when we were covering ebola. there were a lot of hypes or drugs that were a cure for ebola. most of them did not end up working out. a good note of precautions in all of this. >> elizabeth cohen. thank you. dr. ali rashah in boston. thank you for joining us. i want you both to listen to the health metrics and evaluations which produces the model that is often used by the white house. here is what he told me last night about his latest upcoming projections. >> being more social distancing across the country than i think we expected. certainly they'll go down to a number of states in the south and places like florida will certainly come down. the other phenomenal that sort
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of set a little counter balance to that is places like new york seems to be stuck at the peak for longer than we originally expected. >> more social distancing and adhering to it than previously projected. the notion ars are the peak are longer than expected, what do you think behind that? >> somebody who's here in new york city and practicing in new york city, i do wonder if the social distancing may not be adhere to in certain pockets. in my mind of two reasons people may not adhering to social distancing, one is they don't believe they don't need to and secondly is they cannot. what we see in new york is
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places hit hard in bronx and queens and st quee queens and staten island. part of what's happening is you have pockets of people where they just have not been able to comply as tightly because they have no choice and don't have the means to do so. >> dr. rashad. you are waiting for other surge of cases. are you expecting a longer peak? >> anderson, we are. we are seeing more patients this week than we did last week. we are still projecting our rise to really go bonn for another week or two. the question is how long that plateau with the apex is going to last. hopefully it will be a week or two. if it is longer, we are going to be using more resources than we
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planned. >> dthe guidelines and the suggestions the president put out yesterday, it really does not address testing at all. it has that state should have adequate testing available and the president clearly is up to the states to do this. st states are clearly, governor cuomo says look we don't have the money to do the kind of testing and hire what someone describes as an army of people that would be needed to do real contact tracing. >> that's right, local area can't go into deficit spending the way the federal government can. this is something that needs to be supported by the federal government and coordinated by the national and federal government in part because we have seen before for example with personal protective equipment and ventilators that you end unwip with a free for a
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as oppose to distribution to really meet the size of the population and you know the need in terms of how many cases and in terms of the transmission. we do need a national coordination plan for this. >> dr. raja, when asked about this, the white house says the cdc is going to be sending some personnel to help out with the public health department in each state but nair nthey're not tal about sending hundreds of people. they're talking about sending people here and there. >> we do need a national testing strategy because without one we have variability. we have different states using different criteria testing. we had different hospitals using different criteria of testing. without a real standardize national protocol, we'll never know how many patients are really affected. >> dr. ali raja appreciate your
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effort and dr. gounder, thank you so much. >> coming up. shawn pence is joining me live how he's helping los angeles getting more testing in to the streets. your mission:
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t some hopes to open up and others are calling for more testing. joining now by a member of the president's academic advisory and as well as dr. rojas. rick, we are seeing some signs the state is already for a may 1st date that the president proposed. testing, is enough in place? i wonder how you see the issue in california where you are. >> thank you for having me on anderson. i see it uniquely from a vantage point that is we have to be slow and follow the data. i would like to see a unique twist to this as we reopen. i think it applies across the country. small businesses with small formats, i would love to be the first to reopen. one is they have been hurt
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harder than most businesses around the country. i think small businesses and local entrepreneurs are really the connective tissue between local communities and the economy. it is a smaller format. we can collect data easier and limit occupancy with smaller restaurant and stors and stores have more data to start building and reopen the economy. we don't want to have a second wave of this. i think there is a unique call to action in this country to really work with local communities and stores. the entrepreneurs will also give a lot of hope and brightness as you see your local retailers or restaurant stores opening up in your neighborhood. i look at it from a wholistic view. i think we should be methodical
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of how we do it. businesses are critical as you say, they been overwhelmed. i have friends who have small businesses who can't get through on the phone and finally apply and for paycheck protection and are told the money is running out and some don't have relationships with banks. it is a complicated issue. it is vital but is a tough issue. >> hevery much so. the problem is many of the small businesses around the country, they don't have really the ability or background to know what to do. one of the things we can go back to a model that kennedy use. we have smart talented people in the united states do a current version of that and call it the resiliency corp. and deploy
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these people to support small businesses to open and applying for the grants and loans they need. the real issue here is we not only want retailers and restaurants toward small ones to survive. we need them to thrive to get the ceconomy back. the american economy bills on small focuses. the policies and programs that they need in order to build up their business back and hire people back so we get people off the unemployment lines. >> dr. rodriguez, we talked about testing and the importance of it and contact tracing. i am wondering and we did not hear a lot about that from the white house yesterday. we understand they're going to be talking about it more today. the president is leaving it up to the states are states are saying we don't have the funds, we need money to do this testing and hire money for contact
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tracing. how important is it from a doctor standpoint? >> it is the most important thing. i love to hear what we are focusing about, collection of data and bringing people back into the work force and opening up small businesses, those are critical. we are embarking on a huge social and medical experiment. that's what this is. what i read from the guidelines, let's start off by saying they are guidelines. one of the reasons that we need testing is because that's the most important criteria we are going to face. what i see right now, it is almost like "the hunger games." may luck be in your favor. it is what they tell in the state. we need a little clear federal leadersh
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leadership. it would be great if we can have the local people participating for local businesses. we'll have hot pockets of the country that have more or less infections. we need the federal government to regulate travel in those areas. it is not just about the state where one country with multiple states. yes, we need data. we can't get data without testing. >> rick, let me ask you on the testing front, just from a business standpoint, how do you think companies are going to be able, big companies, you are talking about small companies and i get that as we are leading the way on getting them open for a lot of reasons, economics and psychological and moral and
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etcetera, but for big companies, i am trying to visualize what it looks like getting back to work at a big company. it seems to me that they would have to be able to assure their employees well, if somebody has a cuff in the workplace, we can give them a media task on-site and we'll know more than 15 minutes if there is an issue or not. it seems like all those things and testing and taking people's temperatures that's going to become a part for big companies at least of the day-to-day life. am i wrong on that? >> no, you are absolutely right. we are working with the head of infection disease. we got a whole bunch of protocols and procedures for our office and property. every employee is going to have their temperatures taken before they walk into the office. the real physical testing is critical. you have to test and you have to
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be able to isolate that person so they are not infecting other people. offices are going to look different. ours is in terms of separation. the percentage of people going into the office are going to be a lot less. we'll be careful about it. we operate large retail properties. fortunately they're outdoor properties. we are looking at a whole bunch of protocols how to keep those properties safe and keep infection-free as we can. any time you are going to get groups of people together, you run a higher risk. and so there is a lot of uncertainty, we'll need to pivot request quickly. unless we have testing and accurate data and we know the populations health, there is no way you can start and opening. start opening in a large scale way. that's why i would like to start small, collect the data and do the testing, wait a few weeks the maybe 30 days and take the
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next step or a few more businesses opening. it is going to be a timely process but i also know that if people just stay focused, they follow the rules and there is light at the end of the tunnel. i would tell you it is a different light because i don't think we go back to normal. i think we go to a better normal and hopefully we learn a lot from this that we really build in much more productive and wiser society so that we can deal with this differently down the road. >> rick, fascinating to hear from you. i would love to talk more with you another time. how to get back is very crucial. thank you very much. and dr. rodriguez. thank you. >> there are more than 30 people who have died from coronavirus inside a nursing home where bodies were found. i spoke to a woman who lost her mom in that nursing home trying to find what's going on. we'll talk to actor sean penn
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actor sean penn is one of those people teaming up with the city of los angeles right now. his relief, community relief effort is working with l.a.'s mayor to offering free testing across california. the goal is to conduct 10,000 tests daily. sean penn is joining me now. the core is helping volunteers to run by drive-by testing sites so firefighters can spend their time in other places where they are needed and los angeles is your hometown. tell me how you decided to get involved in this and how you see it working? >> i had the benefit of an existing infrastructure in emergency and response be we
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have been working for ten years as you well know starting after the haiti earthquake going through the pandemic there and moving into the american south eastern current bill. it was sort of for us a no brainer. what we had in a unique way as a front row seat into governmental leadership. we were able to be as an organization plugged in and be able to relief firefighters being on test sites which is not a very high-skill activity which the sites we are doing are
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testing. we have people talking them through the way to self test and observe and make sure they do it correctly and the closest they get is a 20% window and they take it out. that's not the sort of thing firefighters should be doing. they need to be out ton streets and stations where they can respond to all kinds of emergency services and needs of the city. it was kind of the fact that we had the infrastructure and when we came into play we came into a highly function governmental response. >> the situation with testing. it is one of those infuriating situations which you dealt with a lot and hitting other places where it seems that the goal is to clear and getting more testing and more kinds of testing and kak trates testites testing and contracting tracing as well. it is becoming a political issue. pretty much everybody seems to
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agree except perhaps the president that testing is critical for opening up. >> testing is the complementary component of what the heroes at the hospitals are doing. it is a way to surveillance of where data are collected so we know where we are with this. those who are notified as testing positive know immediately to first self-isolate and there is the contact tracing part component which we are all trying to get to. when we were talking about haiti those years ago, there were so much that i felt that i needed to advocate for and my position here as it stands now, i can defer advocacy to an exceptional governor newsom and exceptional
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mayor here in san francisco and los angeles and other leaderships in the state. i have to make the argument everyday internally to understand really pipeline supplies can come from in terms of expansion and that sort of thing. fortunately i don't have to be the yelling zelick. >> it is not just the tests itself but getting results verify and getting results to people in a time my manner, it is the swab and the reagents. it is not just the tests themselves. do you see a situation where, do you have a sense of how much more does this have to kind of up scale -- up scale is not a word. how much more does it have to grow to meet the needs of
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reopening? >> well, first thing is you know every under estimate your enemy. and everyone scientists put it as an elusive virus. all of these things are revealing themselves. we have to stay extremely fluid in terms of -- because tests change. we hope to have a mass expansion of rapid test and the tests that are accurate to covid-19 which is the significant question with those. clear communications about all these things but in terms of full expansion of the needs of the country is, we really need federal guidelines because, for example, our organization we need the ppe and n-95.
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how much is legitimate in terms of scientific and public health balance for us to be using verses these first responders in hospita hospitals you got the explosive ordinance test suit and these people are going in there everyday with partial blast suits. we need these federal guidelines and in the meantime it is sort of everybody to their own instinct and credible amounts of networks of communications and criticisms and it really ju just -- we really need to have clear guidelines and national strategy for all of this. >> sean penn. i appreciate what you are doing and core is doing right now. thank you very much. >> thank you for the public service you and your partners are doing and the cuomo brothers
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we are learning more of the new jersey nursing home. 17 people have died inside a morgue. it was intended to hold no more than three people. 33 coronavirus deaths linked to the rehab center and more than 100 people tested positive. her mom died last month at the age of 84. lee, thank you for being with us. i am so sorry for you and your
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family's loss. i know your mom was battling dementia. you and i were talking right before we started, you were saying she didn't need to end this way. it did not need to happen this way. can you talk about what did happen? >> my mom had been in the nursing home for a little over three years and she has dementia. she had been deteriorating. we visited her everyday. our family was lucky and we made time for her and he all visited her and the covid-19 virus hit and they put the nursing home on lockdown. so we were not able to visit her mom. >> were you able to get information much? >> no. that was what the most difficult and heartbreaking thing was. h when they locked down, we had no connection with our mom. we tried todd gied to get nurse
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us in but they all are over worked. we had no connection and no information coming from the nursing home, infuriating. >> it was. >> it was heartbreaking. my sister donna climbed up to a window to face titime me and communicating my mom. my mom has dementia, it does not work for people like her facetiming. >> when you called, were people answering the phone? >> so we would call the nurses' station and occasionally we'll
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get a response. one of the nurses did tell us our mom is doing well or fine but our mom had not eaten. we knew she stopped eating but she done it before. once we encourage her then she would start eating again. we didn't have a sense of how bad it was. my sister did inquire if she could have covid. we were on lockdown for it and they did not have any testing going on. >> there were no testing. >> nursing home did not have any covid cases when retrospect, that's not true. >> did they not call the mortuary? >> it was a bit different for us. on the day of my mom's death, my
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sister and i have been petitioning to visit her. we do whatever it took to be with my mom. my sister dana was able to go out there, allowing one family member in a room. they gave her mask. i believe she wore gloves and she saw my mom. my mom sent us a picture and she did not look good. we didn't understand how bad it was. my sister left to go home and i think within hours she got a call from the nurse, the head nurse to say that my mom was having trouble breathing and by the time my sisters and my brother were able to get to the nursing home, she died. >> oh my god. >> that was the extent of the communications on the day she died. we didn't get much information. the people in the nursing home were our community, too.
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they're feeling the same pain. >> you know other people in the nursing home who are there now. >> yes, we do. we became friends with other residents and their families. >> are you worry about them in. >> yes. we were very worried about them because again there are still no communications coming from the nursing home. the families we all chat and we chat on facebook. we chat in private groups and via texts and everybody is worried. communications is just awful. other thing i thought is why could there been some telecommunication equipment there so we could visibly see our relatives and assure them that we are here and we are not abandoning them. >> or facetiming them. >> anything. >> what was your mom like? she was wonderful. >> i could talk about her for days. she was vibrant.
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she was a fire cracker. she was out spoken. he lo she loved everybody. except for kids, she struggles having patience with them. she loved our family. she was a knitter and baker, her sense of humor and her ability that swears in ways nobody else can. >> did you say swears in ways that nobody else can? >> she can take down anybody. she was a bright woman, they didn't have a lot. they parents did not have a lot. everything they had they gave to us and their grandchildren. we have always surrounded our family with love. we are connected family. my father died about four years ago right before my mother. it has just been very difficult. i mean we thought this stress of
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taking care my father of alzheimer's and my father passed away and she declined rapidly so she never had that time. >> it is such a difficult event with dementia and alzheimer's for your mom and dad and the whole family is devastating. clearly she was surrounded by love for a lot of her life. lee, i appreciate you talking about her. she was 84 years old. >> yes. >> i hope someone changes this nursing home or at least the families get more information because it is just unthinkable. lee, thank you very much. >> thank you. a company in the united
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in kenya, the governor of nairobi is facing criticism for putting hennessey care packages, calling it throat sanitizer. alcohol does not protect against the virus and could make symptoms worse by hurting your immune system. for more international headlines, go to my cnn colleagues around the world. >> reporter: i'm fred pleitgen
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in berlin. they pushed the reproduction factor below 1. one infected person infects less than one other, and that's significant because it means the social distancing measures are pushing the virus back. that means they're able to loosen some of the restrictions that have been in place here. >> reporter: i'm nick paton walsh in london. a british company set to get european self-certification for a vital antibody test that may, in the weeks ahead, be available at home for just $1.50. this vital move to perhaps help some people get back to work if they see they have immunity comes as the mayor of london goes a little bit against the established policy of the british government by suggesting people should think about wearing masks when they're on public transport in the capital. >> reporter: i'm aye vivan wats hong kong.
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sports cancelled around the world but in taiwan, it's game on. the professional baseball league started their new season there, in part because the island's done so well against the coronavirus pandemic with only around 400 cases confirmed out of a population of around 24 million. they can't have humans in the stands, so they set up some card board mannequins but they're broadcasting this live for free to sports star fans around the globe. >> reporter: i'm matthew chance. russia, the biggest country in the world, confirmed coronavirus infections in every one of its 83 regions, plus annexed crimea. western siberia, the last reported case. officials now have more than 32,000 confirmed infections. forcing the kremlin to impose
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